Ponderal desconocido

Tema: Ponderal desconocido Vie 25 Mayo 2012 - 9:31

Hola,

No consigo identificar este ponderal. Alguien me puede ayudar ?

Gracias.

6,34 gramos

Ponderal desconocido Datect10

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Tema: Re: Ponderal desconocido Dom 27 Mayo 2012 - 7:07

Hello,

a coin weight made in Amsterdam. Exact maker difficult to see with this foto, but should be Lindermann or Martens. Coin should be one Louis.

un ponderal hecha en Amsterdam. El fabricante exacta difícil de ver con esta foto, pero debe ser de Lindermann o Martens. Moneda debe ser un Louis.

slowfood

Tema: Re: Ponderal desconocido Dom 27 Mayo 2012 - 21:16

Hi Slowfood !

Thanks. Is it possible to know the type of coin it represents ?

Also, I invite you to participate in the French forum OMNI:

http://www.identification-numismatique.com/

Best regards,

Ced

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Tema: Re: Ponderal desconocido Mar 29 Mayo 2012 - 3:47

Martens is 1700-1745
The Lindermanns are 1725-1758 and 1770-1801

The type of coin? My Dutch book calls it a Louis (or Franse Pistol).
I am not that much an expert in French coins, but that seemed clear for me.

Ref: Arent Pol, Noord-Nederlandse muntgewichten, 1989

Martens es 1700-1745
Los Lindermanns son 1725-1758 y 1770-1801

El tipo de moneda? Mi libro holandés llama un Louis (o Franse pistol).
Yo no soy mucho de un experto en monedas francesas, pero que parecía claro para mí.

slowfood

Tema: Re: Ponderal desconocido Miér 30 Mayo 2012 - 8:17

Helllo Ced,

thanks for showing me also the French version. I have connected to that forum too.
I am not following French coinweights too much. Only those for Spanish coins.
Very interesting to follow the connection in trade.

slowfood

Tema: Re: Ponderal desconocido Miér 30 Mayo 2012 - 9:03

Hi Slowfood,

Thank you very much for these data. I understand now, thanks to your information. In France, this coin is called "Louis d'or". Actually, the weight is about 6,70 g.

What amazes me, it is this bust that I've never seen in French coins. I will investigate...

Thank you for your invaluable participation in OMNI. ;)

Saludos,

Ced

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Tema: Re: Ponderal desconocido Jue 31 Mayo 2012 - 4:11

Hello Ced,

the pictures I have in my Dutch book do not help too much to clarify further. Just there is more clearly visible that the letters should be FP for Franse Pistool.
The explanation also says, that probably the head looking right without a crown has not been taken from any real louis.

slowfood

Tema: Re: Ponderal desconocido Dom 3 Jun 2012 - 6:42

Hello Ced,

I discussed the matter with a Canadian expert, the best I know.
Isn't the one from 1668 rather similar?

The people making coin weight says my friend were not necessarily good engravours.
That explains the simplicity of the head probably. And what did they have in hand to make the draft? Books with drawings of coins? The coins as such?

slowfood

Tema: Re: Ponderal desconocido Dom 3 Jun 2012 - 11:58

Hello Slowfood,

Actually, there are crucial questions, but the answers are difficult to proove.

The "Louis d'or" of 1668 is finally rather close to the motive engraved on this weight. In particular, the treatment of the engraving of the long blow is similar.

At time, it will thus be classified as such. If one day you have more information, thank you for communicate with me.

Thank you very much for your researches.

Saludos,

Ced

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